Monday, November 14, 2005
More updates on Mt. Zion
Ellen W. Horowitz ellenwrite@bezeqint.net wrote:
NEW DOCUMENTATION:
Jerusalem City Councilwoman Mina Fenton has expressed concern about a variety of church activities in the Land of Israel over the years. She was present at the vigil on November 4th and has provided us with further documents and information in Hebrew at http://isfsp.org/zion-docs.html-------
IN THE MEDIA
For those of you who may not have seen it, there was a good article in last Thursday¹s Jerusalem Post, Katsav Won't Ink David's Tomb Deal Next Week. This was the second news item in the Jerusalem Post which gave extensive coverage to the matter. http://isfsp.org/jpost3.jpg
Two opinion pieces covering this issue also appear in today¹s Jerusalem Post:
Rabbi Stewart Weiss penned an interesting op-ed entitled: Don¹t Do It , President Katsav. The Committee to Save Mt. Zion applauds Rabbi Weiss for taking a definitive stand by saying: Keep your hands off Jerusalem - it¹s not for sale. http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1131367076650&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFullAn
Exchange that Makes Sense, written By Elwood McQuaid, a pastor and leader in the Christian Zionist movement, supports the swap. Pastor McQuiad feels: The good faith exchange, if it occurs, may only be one small step, but it could be a beginning. And not a bad one at that. http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1131367076643&pagename=Jpost%2FJPArticle%2FshowFull ------
TEMPEST IN A TEAPOT? FIND OUT BY ASKING ON NOVEMBER 16TH at 7:00 IN NEW YORK:
Papal Knight, Rabbi David Rosen, head of interfaith relations for the American Jewish Committee (AJC) told Rabbi Stewart Weiss that the report of such a deal was:³fabricated, a tempest in a teapot.² He wrote us (The Committee To Save Mt. Zion) that the deal "...seems to me to be quite preposterous.
"Whereas Gary Krupp another Jewish Papal Knight and founder of Pave the Way Foundation made it clear in an interview in January 2005 with the National Catholic Reporter, that:one specific goodwill gesture he intends to urge upon the Israelis is the return of the Shrine of the Cenacle (the room that we¹ve all been talking about).That same article mentions that:Krupp's next project is to try to help get negotiations between the Holy See and the State of Israel back on track. He's a good friend of both Franciscan Fr. David Jaeger, a principal negotiator for the Holy See with the Israelis, and Oded Ben-Hur, the Israeli ambassador to the Holy See. Krupp said he hopes he can mobilize American Jewish support to galvanize Israel's government to bring the talks! to a swift conclusion. Can the twin Papal Knights be working together?
Interestingly enough AJC and Pave the Foundation are holding an event together on The night before President Katsav's scheduled meeting with the Pope. There will be a panel-discussion on Jewish - Christian Relations at theCenter for Jewish History, 15 West 16 Street, NYC. Get to the truth! You have the opportunity to ask questions and insist on answers from those engaged in Catholic-Jewish "dialogue."------
OTHER PROPERTY AT RISK:
Franciscan Father David M. Jaeger was asked in a recent interview:What do you expect from President Katzav's visit to the Vatican?A portion of his answer is below:That the church in Caesarea will be rebuilt. That the Convent of St. Anthony will finally be returned fully to the Franciscan Sisters. Most of all, that the present negotiations will be accelerated! with a view to an early conclusion, in accordance with the Fundamental Agreement. Then I will know that the great hopes we had in 1993 were truly justified, and that the friendly relations that all of us, on both sides, worked so hard to achieve are finally secure.Earlier on in the interview, you can read the history of this Eretz Yisrael property according the Gospel of Father Jaeger: Caesarea has a prominent place in the Acts of the Apostles and early Christian history. It was where the Gentiles first received the Holy Spirit. Yet the church there was confiscated in the 1950's and was later completely destroyed. There is also the case of the convent of Franciscan sisters in Jerusalem that is still obstinately occupied in part by the Hebrew University, a major national institution. The good sisters gave hospitality to the University in 1948 when the University itself was a war refugee from its original campus. Now the University has several large, spacious campuses, but it is still refusing to leave the little convent. http://www.asianews.it/view.php?l=en&art=4603 As far as the Sate of Israel is concerned, it appears that 1993 was a bad year for signing agreements.
Article 10 of Fundamental Agreement Between the Holy See and the State of Israel (December 30, 1993)1. The Holy See and the State of Israel jointly reaffirm the right of the Catholic Church to property. 2. Without prejudice to rights relied upon by the Parties:
a. The Holy See and the State of Israel will negotiate in good faith a comprehensive agreement, containing solutions acceptable to both Parties, on unclear, unsettled and disputed issues, concerning property, economic and fiscal matters relating to the Catholic Church generally, or to specific Catholic Communities or institutions.
b. For the purpose of the said negotiations, the Permanent Bilateral Working Commission will appoint one or more bilateral subcommissions of experts to study the issues and make proposals.
c. The Parties intend to commence the aforementioned negotiations within three months of entry into force of the present Agreement, and aim to reach agreement within two years from the beginning of the negotiations.
d. During the period of these negotiations, actions incompatible with these commitments shall be avoided. http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/anti-semitism/holysee.html --------
We ask that all of you take the time to familiarize yourself with the some of the authentic history, articles and documentation on our site. Being well informed is an essential component to winning this battle:
://isfsp.org/zion-news.html Audio Reportshttp://isfsp.org/zion-radio.html Documents http://isfsp.org/zion-docs.html
Timeline and Updates
http://isfsp.org/updates.html
NEW DOCUMENTATION:
Jerusalem City Councilwoman Mina Fenton has expressed concern about a variety of church activities in the Land of Israel over the years. She was present at the vigil on November 4th and has provided us with further documents and information in Hebrew at http://isfsp.org/zion-docs.html-------
IN THE MEDIA
For those of you who may not have seen it, there was a good article in last Thursday¹s Jerusalem Post, Katsav Won't Ink David's Tomb Deal Next Week. This was the second news item in the Jerusalem Post which gave extensive coverage to the matter. http://isfsp.org/jpost3.jpg
Two opinion pieces covering this issue also appear in today¹s Jerusalem Post:
Rabbi Stewart Weiss penned an interesting op-ed entitled: Don¹t Do It , President Katsav. The Committee to Save Mt. Zion applauds Rabbi Weiss for taking a definitive stand by saying: Keep your hands off Jerusalem - it¹s not for sale. http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1131367076650&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFullAn
Exchange that Makes Sense, written By Elwood McQuaid, a pastor and leader in the Christian Zionist movement, supports the swap. Pastor McQuiad feels: The good faith exchange, if it occurs, may only be one small step, but it could be a beginning. And not a bad one at that. http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1131367076643&pagename=Jpost%2FJPArticle%2FshowFull ------
TEMPEST IN A TEAPOT? FIND OUT BY ASKING ON NOVEMBER 16TH at 7:00 IN NEW YORK:
Papal Knight, Rabbi David Rosen, head of interfaith relations for the American Jewish Committee (AJC) told Rabbi Stewart Weiss that the report of such a deal was:³fabricated, a tempest in a teapot.² He wrote us (The Committee To Save Mt. Zion) that the deal "...seems to me to be quite preposterous.
"Whereas Gary Krupp another Jewish Papal Knight and founder of Pave the Way Foundation made it clear in an interview in January 2005 with the National Catholic Reporter, that:one specific goodwill gesture he intends to urge upon the Israelis is the return of the Shrine of the Cenacle (the room that we¹ve all been talking about).That same article mentions that:Krupp's next project is to try to help get negotiations between the Holy See and the State of Israel back on track. He's a good friend of both Franciscan Fr. David Jaeger, a principal negotiator for the Holy See with the Israelis, and Oded Ben-Hur, the Israeli ambassador to the Holy See. Krupp said he hopes he can mobilize American Jewish support to galvanize Israel's government to bring the talks! to a swift conclusion. Can the twin Papal Knights be working together?
Interestingly enough AJC and Pave the Foundation are holding an event together on The night before President Katsav's scheduled meeting with the Pope. There will be a panel-discussion on Jewish - Christian Relations at theCenter for Jewish History, 15 West 16 Street, NYC. Get to the truth! You have the opportunity to ask questions and insist on answers from those engaged in Catholic-Jewish "dialogue."------
OTHER PROPERTY AT RISK:
Franciscan Father David M. Jaeger was asked in a recent interview:What do you expect from President Katzav's visit to the Vatican?A portion of his answer is below:That the church in Caesarea will be rebuilt. That the Convent of St. Anthony will finally be returned fully to the Franciscan Sisters. Most of all, that the present negotiations will be accelerated! with a view to an early conclusion, in accordance with the Fundamental Agreement. Then I will know that the great hopes we had in 1993 were truly justified, and that the friendly relations that all of us, on both sides, worked so hard to achieve are finally secure.Earlier on in the interview, you can read the history of this Eretz Yisrael property according the Gospel of Father Jaeger: Caesarea has a prominent place in the Acts of the Apostles and early Christian history. It was where the Gentiles first received the Holy Spirit. Yet the church there was confiscated in the 1950's and was later completely destroyed. There is also the case of the convent of Franciscan sisters in Jerusalem that is still obstinately occupied in part by the Hebrew University, a major national institution. The good sisters gave hospitality to the University in 1948 when the University itself was a war refugee from its original campus. Now the University has several large, spacious campuses, but it is still refusing to leave the little convent. http://www.asianews.it/view.php?l=en&art=4603 As far as the Sate of Israel is concerned, it appears that 1993 was a bad year for signing agreements.
Article 10 of Fundamental Agreement Between the Holy See and the State of Israel (December 30, 1993)1. The Holy See and the State of Israel jointly reaffirm the right of the Catholic Church to property. 2. Without prejudice to rights relied upon by the Parties:
a. The Holy See and the State of Israel will negotiate in good faith a comprehensive agreement, containing solutions acceptable to both Parties, on unclear, unsettled and disputed issues, concerning property, economic and fiscal matters relating to the Catholic Church generally, or to specific Catholic Communities or institutions.
b. For the purpose of the said negotiations, the Permanent Bilateral Working Commission will appoint one or more bilateral subcommissions of experts to study the issues and make proposals.
c. The Parties intend to commence the aforementioned negotiations within three months of entry into force of the present Agreement, and aim to reach agreement within two years from the beginning of the negotiations.
d. During the period of these negotiations, actions incompatible with these commitments shall be avoided. http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/anti-semitism/holysee.html --------
We ask that all of you take the time to familiarize yourself with the some of the authentic history, articles and documentation on our site. Being well informed is an essential component to winning this battle:
://isfsp.org/zion-news.html Audio Reportshttp://isfsp.org/zion-radio.html Documents http://isfsp.org/zion-docs.html
Timeline and Updates
http://isfsp.org/updates.html
